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    Law Regarding the Led Zeppelin lawsuit

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    I find it madness, that an artist for fifty years couldn't be arsed to sue someone, yet fifty years later, they die, and some cunt on behalf of their estates decides to spend the money on lawyers.
    Sounds like an awful waste of time and money.

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    Agreed, Hikari. The same chord changes do not equate to plagarism. I watched SNL Saturday and noticed the chords to Kanye West's Ghost Town were the same as David Bowie's Life on Mars. But the melody above it is entirely different.

    Not posting the Kanye song because I don't want people losing their lunch.

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    You can't trademark a chord progression. Ghosts from old timey blues and the big band era might hire lawyers and come after you.


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    Led Zeppelin are the kings of rip off..

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    But not really...


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    Here's a little perspective. These guys redid the Rolling Stones classic 'The Last Time' and few other hits.

    Band called The Verve 'created' a song called Bittersweet Symphony (1997) and was court ordered to pay the royalties from the song to the Stones.

    Why? Go to anywhere around 1:30 - 1:50

    They didn't change a note, the tempo, or add chords to the main phrase of music. Just a straight theft and insert your words over top.



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    And the funny provenance of the song in general.

    The Staple Singers - This May Be the Last Time > The Rolling Stones - The Last Time > Andrew Oldham Orchestra - The Last Time remake > The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony

    It's a little complicated, but originally The Verve negotiated to use six notes from the Oldham remake. A person associated with The Stones noticed they used quite a bit more material and then sued The Verve for any and all royalties from the song Bittersweet Symphony. Oldham got a small amount of money in royalties and Jagger/Richards got a lot of money as a result of the ruling.

    Do ya'll remember how big Bittersweet Symphony was on the radio when it came out?

    I know the story because it touches on one of my pet peeves. When groups steal actual riffs or melodies and claim as their own. (RAP)
    The law on copyright theft is constantly changing, but the agreed understanding is that the new artist is to get permission in writing from the original creating artist, and/or pay a fee for using the music.

    If the original artist can prove in court that the offending artist thieved the material without permission, all of the profits and royalties from the piece can be garnisheed from the offender.


    The Zep issues fall into another category where artists redo existing songs. Page knew his sources and acknowledged them, often changing his versions to the degree they weren't considered theft.



    eg This is based on an old blues song...at least five artists have done a version since Blind Willie Johnson. Does this Led Zep version seem like a direct theft?


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    I had no idea about the issues that are carried out behind the musical curtains, I find all the SEO research that was launched interesting and I think that right now I became addicted to see what is behind each big band or musician hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by tamall View Post
    I had no idea about the issues that are carried out behind the musical curtains, I find all the SEO research that was launched interesting and I think that right now I became addicted to see what is behind each big band or musician hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    Rick Beato breaks it down in this video:
    rick beato has a lot of good videos

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