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    MH370 conspiracy: Did America shoot down missing Malaysia Airlines plane?

    By Chris Richards - The Mirror




    A former oil company executive turned author has suggested America could have shot down missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 - and is now trying to cover it up.

    Writing on OpEdNews.com, John Chuckman, a former chief economist for a large Canadian oil company, asked: "Could it be that the United States shot down Flight MH370, either accidentally or deliberately, and now wants to keep it secret?

    "The possibility of recovery of the full wreckage, even if its location were found, from four miles under the sea amongst underwater mountains is extremely remote at best, so the United States can remain confident that physical evidence will never emerge.

    Mr Chuckman, who is originally from Chicago, continued: "There would be nothing unprecedented in such an act: on at least three occasions, regrettably, America's military has shot down civilian airliners.

    "I have no idea what event (a rogue pilot, a hijacker?) led to Flight MH370 turning off its communications, changing course, and flying low, but I do know that the event could not have gone unnoticed by America's military-intelligence eyes and ears."

    MH370 disappeared while flying between Kuala Lumpur and Beijiing on March 8 with 239 people on board.

    A six week search of the Indian Ocean, where experts believe the plane crashed, has yet to yield any trace of the jetliner.

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    most of those shootdowns were accidental. (or I'm sure the gov's story is they were all accidental.) now I view that idea as way too conspiracy-ish, because the facts have a hard time supporting it. hijack remains on the table, but I really dont think there's any way this thing splashed down into the ocean, its not like its easy flat water like the hudson. too much stuff floats. ya need a good 150mph-ish or more to keep that thing in the air, this thing would have splintered into a million pieces landing in open ocean (or more like twisting a million aluminum cans apart simultaneously, which is why people generally dont survive shit like this,) I just dont see there being any way this thing crashes in the ocean without there being a rather large debris field...and I'm fully confident if there was such a wreckage our benevolent eye in the sky would have picked it up.

    between that lack of wreckage and the obscure precious unmentionable cargo and squad of engineers working for a company that does chinese stealth shit, once again, the conspiracy becomes the most plausible explanation, the only one that really fits the facts we've got in front of us.

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    good pilot could have landed that thing on an island.....or aircraft carrier































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    aircraft carrier
    I can see the tower chopping a wing off right now

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    stack that thing as high as the tower and flatten across it you could have a floating landing sight

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    I saw a pilot talking about 'safe water landings'

    he said there's no such thing unless the plane is designed with pontoons and struts that accommodate the weight of the aircraft

    he added that whenever you see a movie and they land a commercial jetliner in the ocean, it would never survive the impact even if the pilot had the plane completely level and under 200 mph

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    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...370-was-edited

    Voice Recording From Missing Flight MH370 Was Edited

    but by who, for what, of course, remain a mystery. it appears to be sloppily done, like people dont know how far up you can blow a waveform in an audio editing program and see evidence

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    from the comments, given this new information, I think this is the most likely scenario.

    The pilot has hijacked the plane and negotiated with the Malaysian government in order to force the release of Anwar Ibrahim who has recently been imprisoned again. The Malaysian government has not talked about these negotiations in order to save face.

    (unless of course the CIA purposefully made piss poor edits to make it look like a bungling lesser government or the other conspiracy tack that its a rothschild 'acquisition' of patent rights and at the same time taking out the major players that helped develop it at that chinese company...which sounds more plausible or is it both since they own the feds anyway...)
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    interesting theory
     
    During the American withdrawal from Afghanistan, one of their command and control system used for controlling the drones operation, was hijacked by the Taliban when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Taliban ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014. The Taliban want money for the system from the Russian or the Chinese. The Russians are too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the systems technology. The Chinese goal is to master the technology behind the command and control system, then, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it. Sometime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile, American covert intelligence, with the assistance of Israeli intelligence together, determined to intercept and recapture the cargo. The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all, the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the American military will not hijack or harm civilian commercial aircraft, so MH 370 is the perfect carrier. There were 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 Iranians with stolen passports worked in tandem among them. When MH 370 was about to leave the Malaysian air space and reporting to Vietnamese air control, an American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily. During AWAC operations activity in the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft and Airbus aircraft are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all Boeing commercial aircraft could be remote controlled by FAA /ATC ground control towers. The same remote control system used to control the pilot less spy aircraft and drones. The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication systems, changed course, and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite. The Malaysian, Thai, and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react. The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anabas, South India and then landed at Maldives some villagers saw the aircraft landing), refueled and continued its flight to Garcia Diego, the American Air Base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen by achieving a temporary altitude to 45,000. The MH370 with dead passengers were air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean, make it to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and copilot, but first diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea, while the plane made their way to Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australians are diversion distracter. The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defense scientists.


    aint no different than watchin tv

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    I'm going with the early conspiracy theory...4 out of 5 patent holders on that flight...

    if a guy or company stands to be the sole holder of a billion dollar patent, killing a couple of hundred people is not out of the realm of possibilities

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    Seems I need to brush up on my conspiracy site. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal-9000 View Post
    I saw a pilot talking about 'safe water landings'

    he said there's no such thing unless the plane is designed with pontoons and struts that accommodate the weight of the aircraft

    he added that whenever you see a movie and they land a commercial jetliner in the ocean, it would never survive the impact even if the pilot had the plane completely level and under 200 mph
    Well that's just not true, Captain Sully Sullenberger would beg to differ! The guy landed an Airbus in a river without a single casualty just a couple years back.


    If we're placing bets, I'm still going with whoever said it's probably the simplest explanation. Cabin fire from a mechanical/electrical malfunction where they had to shut off the breakers one by one, couldn't bring it back under control and went splat into the giant Indian Ocean. Could take years to find it.
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    Sully is the man..!

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    still lots of cargo mystery. supposedly there were all these li+ batteries, but only about 200kg...what about the other unspecified 2000kg?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...-cargo-mystery

    sully....what sully did was an amazing feat on flat water. with a significantly smaller aircraft, iirc. rough ocean? fuhgeddaboutit.

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    from the former PM of malaysia

    http://chedet.cc/?p=1361#more-1361

    BOEING TECHNOLOGY – WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN
    May18th2014

    1. What goes up must come down. Airplanes can go up and stay up for long periods of time. But even they must come down eventually. They can land safely or they may crash. But airplanes don’t just disappear. Certainly not these days with all the powerful communication systems, radio and satellite tracking and filmless cameras which operate almost indefinitely and possess huge storage capacities.

    2. I wrote about the disabling of MH370’s communication system as well as the signals for GPS. The system must have been disabled or else the ground station could have called the plane. The GPS too must have been disabled or else the flight of MH370 would have been tracked by satellites which normally provide data on all commercial flights, inclusive of data on location, kind of aircraft, flight number, departure airport and destination. But the data seems unavailable. The plane just disappeared seemingly from all screens.

    3. MH370 is a Boeing 777 aircraft. It was built and equipped by Boeing. All the communications and GPS equipment must have been installed by Boeing. If they failed or have been disabled Boeing must know how it can be done. Surely Boeing would ensure that they cannot be easily disabled as they are vital to the safety and operation of the plane.

    4. A search on the Internet reveals that Boeing in 2006 received a US patent for a system that, once activated, removes all control from pilots to automatically return a commercial airliner to a pre-determined landing location.

    5. The Flightglobal.com article by John Croft, datelined Washington DC (1st December, 2006) further mentioned “The ‘uninterruptible’ autopilot would be activated – either by pilot, by on board sensors, or even remotely by radio or satellite links by government agencies like the Central Intelligence Agency, if terrorists attempt to gain control of the flight deck”.

    6. Clearly Boeing and certain agencies have the capacity to take over “uninterruptible control” of commercial airliners of which MH370 B777 is one.

    7. Can it not be that the pilot of MH370 lost control of their aircraft after someone directly or remotely activated the equipment for seizure of control of the aircraft.

    8. It is a waste of time and money to look for debris or oil slick or to listen for “pings” from the black box. This is most likely not an ordinary crash after fuel was exhausted. The plane is somewhere, maybe without MAS markings.

    9. Boeing should explain about this so-called anti-terrorism auto-land system. I cannot imagine the pilots made a soft-landing in rough seas and then quietly drown with the aircraft.

    10. Someone is hiding something. It is not fair that MAS and Malaysia should take the blame.

    11. For some reason the media will not print anything that involves Boeing or the CIA. I hope my readers will read this.

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