Something further I'm reading is sometimes the disease doesn't show until after the quarantine period. So there's always a risk that one of the bad variants can get out. It's a hard one to balance.
But it's unprecedented that you're going to be arrested and imprisoned for entering your own country
I have no sympathy whatsoever for those stuck in India. They all went of their own free will this year knowing what the possibilities could be. Going to India for an arranged marriage or funeral is not essential travel in my book.Originally Posted by lost in melb.
It's taken for granted that a certain section of the population would end up plating the "race" card in this. Those of us being precautionary in Australia have the right to be protected from the possibility of being infected by someone returning from India. Nothing to do with race at all!!
The only one's that will be arrested will be those that defy or try and flout the rules - then they deserve it.
Typical of politicians - take advantage of a tragic situation to politicise it!!
As for quarantine setup..... What a joke. Here in WA the first spread in over 12 months to the community was from quarantined returnees. We have massive ambulance ramping now..... no way we could cope if we had an outbreak of Covid. I support the ban on returnees from India.
In amongst it all (India & Brazil) there are still people of low intelligence denying the seriousness of this disease. I wonder how long before it becomes blamed on climate change.. []
lost in melb. (05-06-2021)
They've been vacillating back and forth on all kinds of stuff. Ya know what that accomplishes? It helps people have a lot of conflicting information and prevents them from making solid, fact based decisions.
Most people's eyes will defocus if you start talking about Antibody Dependent Enhancement and why they've never developed a good flu vaccine or how some of the early ones really just helped the virus kill people.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...018.02991/full
Front. Microbiol., 05 December 2018 | https://doi.org/10.3389/fmicb.2018.02991
Viral-Induced Enhanced Disease Illness
Implications of bolded? /cups earUnderstanding immune responses to viral infections is crucial to progress in the quest for effective infection prevention and control. The host immunity involves various mechanisms to combat viral infections. Under certain circumstances, a viral infection or vaccination may result in a subverted immune system, which may lead to an exacerbated illness. Clinical evidence of enhanced illness by preexisting antibodies from vaccination, infection or maternal passive immunity is available for several viruses and is presumptively proposed for other viruses. Multiple mechanisms have been proposed to explain this phenomenon. It has been confirmed that certain infection- and/or vaccine-induced immunity could exacerbate viral infectivity in Fc receptor- or complement bearing cells- mediated mechanisms. Considering that antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) is a major obstacle in vaccine development, there are continues efforts to understand the underlying mechanisms through identification of the epitopes and antibodies responsible for disease enhancement or protection. This review discusses the recent findings on virally induced ADE, and highlights the potential mechanisms leading to this condition.
Introduction
The relationship between virus infection and host immune response is complex. Outcomes of a virus infection are shaped by the interplay between various multilayered events of viral-host interactions. Classically, viruses initiate the cycle of infection by attachment of viral surface proteins to specific target cell receptors. Most of the viral surface proteins have extremely immunogenic structures that can bind and stimulate both innate and adaptive immune responses (Sahay et al., 2017). Neutralizing antibodies inhibit virus infection by binding to surface domains essential for virus replication such as the receptor binding site (RBS) and the fusion peptide (Taylor et al., 2015). In some circumstances, viral-induced antibodies could be detrimental, resulting in enhanced illness such as antibody dependent enhancement (ADE). ADE was first reported in 1964 by Hawkes et al. who demonstrated enhanced infectivity of a number of flaviviruses [Murray Valley encephalitis virus, West Nile virus (WNV) and Japanese encephalitis virus (JEV)] in the presence of virus-specific antisera, specifically IgG antibodies (Hawkes, 1964). Downstream studies have further explained this phenomenon.
It was shown that the binding of virions to non-neutralizing or sub-neutralizing antibodies could lead to more efficient viral uptake into the target cell in Fcγ receptor (FcγR)- (Taylor et al., 2015) or complement dependent- mediated mechanisms (Takada and Kawaoka, 2003), leading to enhanced replication and pathogenicity (Figure 1). ADE has been subsequently reported for a wide range of viruses, including flaviviruses (Dengue Halstead and O'Rourke, 1977a and Zika Bardina et al., 2017), respiratory viruses (Influenza Ochiai et al., 1988 and Respiratory Syncytial virus (RSV) Polack et al., 2002), and many others (Robinson et al., 1990a; Takada et al., 2001; Meyer et al., 2008) (Table 1).
+ implications for leaky poor quality "vax"
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KevinD (05-05-2021)
more evidence that they're going after everyone, whether you are naive enough to get the shot or not
>These “self-disseminating vaccines” can be developed in at least two ways. The conventional approach relies on applying a vaccine to the fur of captured animals and releasing them. When these animals return to their natural homes, social grooming results in the vaccine being ingested by other individuals, magnifying the level of immunity that can be achieved.
>This shows promise for reducing the threat of rabies transmitted to humans from vampire bats, for example.
>A more radical approach relies on inserting a small piece of the genome of the infectious disease agent into a benign virus that spreads naturally through the animal population. As this transmissible vaccine spreads from animal to animal, it immunises them against the target infectious disease, vastly increasing immunity within the animal population and reducing the risk of spillover to humans.
>The technology for developing transmissible vaccines now exists, and field trials focused on protecting wild rabbits from a viral haemorrhagic fever using this technique have showed promising results. Efforts are now under way to develop prototypes for several important human pathogens, such as the Lassa and Ebola viruses.
>Self-disseminating vaccines could be a revolutionary technology for reducing the threat of human infectious diseases that jump to us from wild animals. In addition to making wildlife vaccination feasible and cost-effective, this technology reduces the motivation to cull or exterminate ecologically important disease reservoir species, such as bats.
https://www.newscientist.com/article...ead-themselves
KevinD (05-05-2021)
I dont even dig copiously for these things, its just all so easy to find
8/ Iran has also experienced increases in CV19 cases after vaxxinations started. Vaxxine doses administered sharply increased March 19th (2021), and were followed by an increase in both CV19 cases & deaths
9/ Iran’s neighbour Pakistan is also experiencing rises in both CV19 cases & deaths after numbers of vaxxinations have gown up
10/ India is experiencing a significant increase in both CV19 cases & deaths these days. The graphs of CV19 cases, deaths, & share of people receiving their first vaxxine dose are virtually indistinguishable
11/ Now let’s move to South America. Chile started CV19 vaxxinations on Dec 24th 2020, & CV19 cases & deaths have been rising as vaxxine doses are administered daily
12/ Uruguay started it’s CV19 vaxxinations on Feb 28th 2021, & it too, has seen a significant rise in CV19 cases & deaths following vaxxination
13/ And finally, Ontario. CV19 cases seem to be walking in step with CV19 vaxxine doses administered to it’s population
14/ Let’s take a break & ask some Qs. How about an obvious one 1st:
R these [Upwards arrow] in CV19 cases+deaths due to seasonal resurgence of infections that r coincidently [Upwards arrow] as vaxxinations [Upwards arrow]?
We can answer this by looking at neighbouring countries that have different vaxxination rates
16/ If the increases in CV19 cases & deaths in Israel was seasonal, then you would also see the same trend in cases+deaths in neighbouring Palestine. Cases continue to rise in Israel & but fall in Palestine
19/ If seasonality was causing an increase in the rising of CV19 cases & deaths, then these neighbouring countries would also be affected. The data so far shows that CV19 cases + deaths rise as a result of increasing vaxxinations
20/ But the perfect case study would be if a nation, preferably an island (isolated/no land borders), that had very little to no CV19 cases prior to vaxxinations, experienced a big jump in infections#s post-vax. Luckily, there are 3 we know of
21/ The Isle of Man started administering vaxxinations on 25-Jan-2021. Prior to this, there were little to no CV19 infections, but a sharp increase in cases is seen as vaxxinations began
22/ The island of Bonaire started it’s vaxxinations on 22-Feb-2021. It too, saw a significant increase in both CV19 cases & deaths after vaxxinations began. CV19 cases & deaths were low before vaxxinations began
23/ Finally, the island of Seychelles, also saw a steep rise in both CV19 cases & deaths after vaxxinations started, & numbers of cases & deaths haven’t returned to pre-vax levels even after 3 months of vaxxinations
compiled
https://threader.app/thread/1387548104073912324
what's an objective conclusion here, fellas?
I must really just not like vaccines, it has nothing to do with all this shit tons of data that should set off mad red alarm bells in anyone's head reading this
Last edited by FBD; 05-04-2021 at 08:15 PM.
Medical journal reports: it is the "harmless" spike proteins that are responsible for the inflammation and vascular damage seen in the organs of COVID patients - including lungs, brain, heart and kidneys - and for causing the body to attack itself. This could explain why some people have strokes, heart attacks and why some people have issues in other parts of the body.
Source:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680014/
News:
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-...tein-lung.html
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/sc...s-study-247279
Meanwhile on the CDC's own website: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ines/mrna.html
>mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein.” The spike protein is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19.
>harmless piece called the “spike protein.”
HONK! HONK!
Let's recap:
-Spike proteins are responsible for inflammation and vascular damage
-"vax" tells the body to create these spike proteins...
....that....are...responsible for inflammation and vascular damage
and the thread above detailing all of the increases post vaccination are proof
sorry, you are fuggin insane if you go again to get jabbed with this shit
lemme guess these two tweets are dead cuz unapproved messaging....
https://twitter.com/RealJoelSmalley/...36206488592388
https://twitter.com/RealJoelSmalley/...36210754129920
https://www.globalresearch.ca/signif...accine/5744180So SPI-M released their report on the next wave of COVID armageddon. It's a little weird so strap on your cognitive dissonance specs to take it all in.
https://t.co/KBgxzYJNgp?amp=1 UK Government Predicts ‘Third Wave’ of COVID Deaths ‘Dominated’ by Those Who Are Vaccinated
In their forecast, the key metrics of hospitalisations and deaths are dominated (60-70%) by those who are fully vaccinated. Yeah, no typo. Because vaccine failure in the most at-risk where uptake is high will be more serious than susceptibility of the lower-risk unvaccinated.
Last edited by FBD; 05-04-2021 at 08:16 PM.
I've posted enough here. I've shown you how the Chinese faked the videos of people getting "infected" and dropping on the ground shaking, I've shown the initial pandemic data being massaged ridiculous and deaths from other categories taken to inflate covid numbers....I've shown you the nursing home orders that inflated the death count....I've shown you the Tuberculosis outbreaks that began it and the correlating HIV data...and now I'm showing you unequivocally that the "vaccines" themselves are causing spikes in infections and deaths.
I've done my part to educate you all - the rest is on you. You cannot plead ignorance after reading the things that I've posted. If perchance you're too brainwashed to have read any of what I've posted, that's also on you, because you've made a choice one way or another - sticking your head in the sand is seldom a good option.
Good luck to you all and I hope any of you that were stupid enough to get experimented upon dont experience any of these bad effects that we're seeing all over the world. Its not a 100% rate, so here's to hoping you can Neo-bend your way through the hailstorm.
KevinD (05-05-2021)
I'm getting my first jab this Sunday!!!
lost in melb. (05-06-2021)
I'm not so sure. They could be there for other reasons
In any case, government is backtracking!
Which one?
Astrazeneca I believe......
lost in melb. (05-07-2021)
I'm going to get that one to, even though I'm a little bit under the recommended age
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