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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monk View Post
    All part of China's big plan that started with Mao!
    We need to start cranking up an economy that isn't reliant on selling natural resources NOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    We need to start cranking up an economy that isn't reliant on selling natural resources NOW.
    We should somehow re-invigorate a manufacturing industry. The trouble we have is unions - they are the root cause of the shutdown of our motoring industry, pushing wages to levels where the industry was no longer economically viable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monk View Post
    We should somehow re-invigorate a manufacturing industry. The trouble we have is unions - they are the root cause of the shutdown of our motoring industry, pushing wages to levels where the industry was no longer economically viable.
    I agree that they have a role to play. But I also think at a Federal level they did not get behind our vital industries at key points. Leaving the whole thing to the free market is an illusion. Even the US will pull out big stops to support its own car industry

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    I'd be interested to see a comparison between the Australian car employee wages and other countries. Obviously wages are less in Mexico, but what about Japan, US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    I agree that they have a role to play. But I also think at a Federal level they did not get behind our vital industries at key points. Leaving the whole thing to the free market is an illusion. Even the US will pull out big stops to support its own car industry
    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    I'd be interested to see a comparison between the Australian car employee wages and other countries. Obviously wages are less in Mexico, but what about Japan, US?


    No doubt in my mind that unions have had and still have an important role to play. They also need to leave politics out of it but seeing as they established the Labor Party I can't see that happening.

    I don't agree that the average taxpayer should be liable to subsidise non-profitable industries.... Joe Blow average gets hit but the big earners somehow manage to avoid tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monk View Post
    Joe Blow average gets hit but the big earners somehow manage to avoid tax.
    Privatize gains, socialize losses....its the globocommiefascist bankster way

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monk View Post
    No doubt in my mind that unions have had and still have an important role to play. They also need to leave politics out of it but seeing as they established the Labor Party I can't see that happening.

    I don't agree that the average taxpayer should be liable to subsidise non-profitable industries.... Joe Blow average gets hit but the big earners somehow manage to avoid tax.
    In the long-term, yes. I agree. However a lot of our bright ideas are shipped overseas. Sometimes a bit of a leg up gets things happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    I agree that they have a role to play. But I also think at a Federal level they did not get behind our vital industries at key points. Leaving the whole thing to the free market is an illusion. Even the US will pull out big stops to support its own car industry
    globalists like fascism where it apples well to their interests
    they like socialism where it applies to their interests
    they like communism where it applies to their interests
    they like crony capitolism (aka state capitalism aka banana republicism) wherever it might "work" (for them, so long as they've bought off those at the reins) too

    this is the subversion of nations, ultimately the ability to apply totalitarianism at higher and higher levels until it can be applied at one level and trickle down appropriately to all desired areas

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